The 2014 Icicle series calendar and SI's are posted.
Linky (http://www.gbca.org/resources/Documents/2014%20Icicle%20Series%20Sailing%20Instructions.pdf)
Race Date Course
#1 January 4 Standard
#2 January 11 Reverse
#3 January 18 Standard
#4 January 25 Reverse
#5 February 1 Standard
Participants are reminded that these are "fun races" without race/protest committee. Aggressive, close quarter racing is frowned upon. Let's help each other out.
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Participants are reminded that these are "fun races" without race/protest committee. Aggressive, close quarter racing is frowned upon. Let's help each other out.
Definition: Just because the other guy is wrong, it doesn?t make it right to ram him!
Now, who wants Ice-cream!
I have not seen anyone getting rammed.
Quote from: Funk on December 06, 2013, 06:32:33 AM
I have not seen anyone getting rammed.
We try to keep those "under wraps"! ;)
On occasion it is close
Indeed.
I remember that one Trink. Had completely forgotten it. Nice shot.
They were just making crew member change-ups, and forgot the gang plank :-) . The camera never forgets! I remember one ?fogy? Icicle race going around the low range, it was so fogy you could only see about 100 feet ahead, I could only hear a bunch of yelling and then the sound of crunching fiber glass and then more yelling! I so glad to be in the lead at the time.
That touching thing is un-seemly....
Terry is just that kinda of guy, but is was foggy that time.
Quote from: Firewater on December 18, 2013, 08:13:15 AM
Terry is just that kinda of guy, but is was foggy that time.
I thought Terry was in a fog most of the time!
I distinctly remember a crunch when it was not foggy. I think there were no pictures we were too stunned
It was definitely foggy the day Trink took that picture. You can faintly see a boat in the background. We watched it happen. Most likely a combination of poor visibility and much different boat speeds in a crowd. As I recall it was one of those days when you suddenly see the boat ahead appear out of the fog.
We had a close call during one of HYC's revognah's. In what appeared to be an instant, Nemo appeared heading right toward us. Vic managed to avoid the collision but it was definitely close.
Maybe we need fog horns.
Actually I believe we are supposed to ring a bell in fog both my little Irwin and big Irwin have a bell. Put that on your xmas list and be ready for fog. Either that or an infrared camera they can see through fog.
Hmm. I think one of the new air blast horns is better. Just think, you could scare the hell out of the boat in front, just before you smacked 'em. :)
The first Icicle Race is this weekend!! With the passing of our friend and fellow sailor Jim Wells, we will rename the first Icicle Race of 2014, the "Jim Wells Celebration Icicle Race". After listening to Jim's Priest at the Rosary last evening, I took away that Jim did not want anyone to mourn his passing. He had a great life, a wonderful family, many friends and he fought the good fight! Let us all put on our best "Corinthian Spirit" then race hard and Honest. After the race, come to the GBCA Clubhouse, have some chili, a good time, and a toast to Jim Wells Vice-Commodore GBCA.
Another friend of GBCA also passed this month. While looking up Jim's obituary, I came across Roy Weeks who had passed. Roy was a Commodore of GBCA in 1994. Many knew Roy as "Capt. Roy" who taught many of us to be Captains in spirit and by the books.
Jim and Roy volunteered many hours in making GBCA what it is today. Let's all follow in their "wake" and make this club even better!
Commodore Scotty
Volunteer, Participate, Support
I just heard about the lost of our good friend Jim Wells as well, we both raced in the Wednesday Races on Clearlake, for many years, he always was helpful to us all and always kept you smiling. He crewed for me(KATANA) in the 2010 Rum Races and the 2010 Harvest Moon Race(see photo) and helped us win a second place trophy, that was a race you just felt lucky to finish, but with Jims help we made it. We had some great talks together on that race, he will be greatly missed, but suffers no longer.
I would like to suggest that we all fly(the higher the better) our American flags on the first Icicle race in memory of Jim! I think most of us have an American flag, just my thoughts pass it on and maybe it will catch on! Terry Young
It looks to be a spectacular day Saturday. I had hoped to have the GBCA Calendars today, but between me ordering late and the weather, they are not in yet. Next weekend for sure. That gives you time to get your Senior Membership current or upgraded. John should be out on Tramp tomorrow getting some pictures to start off the New Year! After the race, come by for Hot Chili and Rum. Let us have a toast to Jim Wells and all our friends who have passed before us. Sail safe!
Scott
We'll be selling long-sleeve Icicle Series t-shirts at the after-party, Navy or White. Only $20!
If you want one, but can't make it to the party, let me know what size/color and I'll try to set one aside for you.
Walter
Wow, that was fun! Pictures are loaded. Enjoy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157639418634124/
miss you Jim
John
Thanks again Lacy Bros! A great start to the Icicle Series. 765 great pictures. Some really nice ones of the mark rounding. I bet there were 60 boats out there. The weather was great (64?!). The clubhouse patio was full. I think Jim would have enjoyed every minute of it!
Great way to start the season. Between the Revognah and Icicle 1 the average would be just good for the rest of the year. Maybe we can improve by using the class flags. We were in doubt from time to time who we were competing against. And who won. As tradition by now: very good pictures representing the race. Fair winds and safe sailing in 2014.
Walter;
Set aside a XL Icicle shirt for me. We had some Electrical problems on the boat yesterday and spent all day making repairs. We will be ready for Icicle 2 next week.
Also, Please send me a mailing address so I can mail in my Dues Check. I had planned to drop it off yesterday but were deep into repairs on the boat.
Looks like you guys had a great race, sorry we missed it.
Ron E
Ron_1056@yahoo.com
What a great start to 2014! Just got finished looking at the pics (thanks John) and it looked like a great day on the Bay. Quite a few new boats, Greg's Joyride, Mustang Sally too, and JK3's sweet ride Hanse 415 (buy'n me a lotto ticket) to name a few. The J105 fleet was out in force getting ready for their Mid-Winter Nationals in March. Leopard flying Jim Well's Vice-Commodore Flag at half mast was a great tribute to a great Man. Thanks to all who came out to race and to the party afterwards, what a crowd! Remember... to win the overall Icicle Series, you must be a Senior Member. There are four races left and it is anybody's game. Make sure you fly the appropriate class flag and next week is the "Reverse Course"....Todd ;).
Commodore Scotty
Thanks Chris A. for getting me in the right spots! The rounding of the low range marker was a sight to see and I'm not sure the pictures told the whole story. It was something to watch!
It sure was great to see 60+ boats turning out for the first icicle run of 2014! Great weather, wind and apr?s race camaraderie. Chili must have been great, because it was gone! Thanks Scotty!
Icicle Race 1 - January 4 results:
Cruising Club:
1. Royal Crescent
2. Other Woman
3. Lil Bit a Sol
4. Figaro
5. Firewater
SOS:
1. Shearwater
2. Mental Floss
3. Selah
4. High Cotton
5. Raptide
Non-Spin:
1. Wildcat
2. Ella Grace
3. Tenacious
4. Joy Ride
5. Big D
Spin Non-Sprit:
1. Baltic Raider
2. Loose Cannon
3. Antares
4. HO Leopard
5.
Spin Sprit:
1. GB
2. Pingo
3. Duck & Dive
4. Whiskey Tango
5. ONO
Series results through the 1st race: Click Here (http://www.gbca.org/resources/Documents/2014%20Icicle%20Series%20Results.pdf)
The Ericson 32, Lil Bit a Sol, Sail number 713, has been correctly scored in the Club Cruising class.
She did not race in the SOS class.
GW
Sol Air #53 is on page 11 of the photos. 3 crew on board and no flag. The #713 is Lil Bit A Sol Cruising Class shows 3rd which is correct. Kinda busy at the finish line. Took last year off, glad to be back..
Quote from: Eric713 on January 05, 2014, 05:39:33 PM
Sol Air #53 is on page 11 of the photos. 3 crew on board and no flag. The #713 is Lil Bit A Sol Cruising Class shows 3rd which is correct. Kinda busy at the finish line. Took last year off, glad to be back..
That was us, sorry, forgot our flag! We were Spin Non Sprit. I realized halfway through the second leg and figured we'd tie up a rag if needed. We fouled the kite on the take down and ran long past the mark while the fleet turned the corner and sailed away from us. There is always next week!
Chris
I have received communication from the owner of ?Sol Air?, an Ericson 39, sail # 53; who claims they were sailing in Spin Non-Sprit class, but admittedly without a white flag, because they ?forgot?.
Scoring is adjusted accordingly: SOS 2nd-5th moves up one place and Rapide who was reported as 6th is now 5th.
Lil Bit a Sol (Ericson 32 #713) is correctly reported in Cruising Club.
This stresses the importance of every boat clearly displaying the proper class flag (white for spinnaker [Sprit and Non-Sprit]; dark for Non-Spinnaker; white over dark for SOS/Shorthand [2 or less crew]; orange for GBCA Cruising Club) and winners taking accurate record of the top five boats. There is no race committee on the water, so we are relying upon scribbled scraps of paper, lunch bags, receipts, etc. to make up our winners list.
Thanks
Quote from: Christopher on January 06, 2014, 05:47:21 PM
... and winners taking accurate record of the top five boats. There is no race committee on the water, so we are relying upon scribbled scraps of paper, lunch bags, receipts, etc. to make up our winners list.
You do realize that the last page of the SI's provides a recording sheet for the first place winner to score the top five boats?
But that would mean you are taking the SI's with you on board! ::) ;D
75 boats reported sailing in the second icicle run of 2014! It was a glorious day on the water - Ya gotta love warm winter sailing in Texas! Sailor stew drew a large crowd at the apr?s race festivities! Thanks Marilyn!
Icicle Race 2 - January 11 results:
Cruising Club:
1. Skalawag
2. Stellar of Course
3. Lil Bit a Sol
4. Escape Hatch
5. See Ya
SOS:
1. Selah
2. Mental Floss
3. High Cotton
4. Good News
5. Rapide
Non-Spin:
1. Wildcat
2. Ella Grace
3. Tenacious
4. Phoenix
5. Joy Ride
Spin Non-Sprit:
1. Baltic Raider
2. Picante
3. Silver Bullet
4. #41940 blue hull (Frers 41- Bill Maddock ?)
5. Toccata
Spin Sprit:
1. Hamburg
2. French Connection
3. Infinity
4. Leading Edge
5. GB
Series results through the 2nd race: Click Here (http://www.gbca.org/resources/Documents/2014%20Icicle%20Series%20Results.pdf)
What another great day on the bay! With over 70 boats racing and another overflow crowd at the GBCA Lounge, it was a spectacular day. The photos are loaded and all the sets are at http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/) ,and race 2 is http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157639701053505/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157639701053505/) . Thanks to Marilyn Horton (Rear-Commodore) for setting up the clubhouse and making Sailor's Stew. Hopefully NOAA is right with the forecast for next weekend. Be kind to you friends in the NE! Almost forgot, if you want any of the 100% pictures, email me sailsong@swbell.net.
Commodore Scotty
Another day of pure awesomeness!! Thanks GBCA volunteers and Lacy Bros for the great pics!! Next week we do it again!!
Counted 15 orange flags today. I hope this keeps up! Shorts in January.. gotta love it!
Will Handicaps be adjusted for the Cruising Club Fleet for Icicle #3? We actually finished in the top five for a change..
Ron E
Ron, the ratings should change. Looks like another nice weekend!
Ron,
Congratulations on not being the "median boat", although that means a slight hit ;). Ratings will be out later today as well as full fleet info.
El Super Pollo-
Some of the Membership has requested the full roster of boats finishing in the GBCA Cruising Class. We are nothing if not responsive to the requests of our esteemed Membership.
Please bear in mind that these are ?relaxed? and somewhat ?informal? races and not all results make it to the Super Chicken in time for the Ratings Drop for a variety of reasons. Help your Club help you by:
Turning in your finish time promptly in 24-hour format.
Flying the proper orange flag. Non-Cruising Class please don?t fly your MOB flag during the race. This is especially important during summer races. It?s confusing and altogether un-seamanlike. Come to think of it, no one should do this.
Turn in your finish time no matter how bad. Several have said ?I wasn?t in the top 5 so I didn?t bother?. Nothing could be further from the truth. The worse you do, the better your handicap becomes for your next outing.
Report times to jkevinbox at gmail dot com if you?re not sure your rum-stained cocktail napkin was recorded properly.
Use a good e-mail address when registering. Use a good phone number and check the box to receive text messages from the organizer. This is being used more to blast information during regattas.
Keep coming out no matter what your skill level may be. You?ll be a bit better next time.
All Reporting Finishes:https://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/regatta_uploads/2575/2014RumRaceClubHandicap.pdf (https://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/regatta_uploads/2575/2014RumRaceClubHandicap.pdf)
Ratings:http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2575&custom_report_id=2 (http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2575&custom_report_id=2)
Fair winds
Another beautiful day on The Bay! I forgot to thank Gerhard last night for the excellent food by King's Biergarten. King's is always a treat. Two more races left and everthing is up for grabs.
I agree.
Thanks Gerhard
Thanks Kings
Wish I could stay longer. Just too damn far to drive to get home.
More than 65 boats came out for another gorgeous day of sailing on the bay! Kings Bier Garten Goulash fed and warmed an overflow crowd at the clubhouse! Thanks Gerhard!
Icicle Race 3 - January 18 results:
Cruising Club:
1. Stellar of Course
2. Gemini
3. Skalawag
4. Second Wind
5. Escape Hatch
SOS:
1. Shearwater
2. High Cotton
3. Selah
4. Mental Floss
5. Good News
Non-Spin:
1. Ella Grace
2. Wildcat
3. Tenacious
4. Further
5. Tom foolery
Spin Non-Sprit:
1. Loose Cannon
2. Silver Bullet
3. Picante
4. #5101 Pingo
4. Phoenix
5. Tejas Blue #41940
Spin Sprit:
1. Airborne
2. Hamburg
3. Radiance
4. Infinity
5. Cyrano
Series results through the 3rd race: Click Here (http://www.gbca.org/resources/Documents/2014%20Icicle%20Series%20Results.pdf)
Another splendid day on the water. Just thinking of our north west european and northerly US sailing friends give "Icicle" a special meaning. We got a sheet stuck in a winch adding to the increasing frustration with westmarine quality for these items. That's where a good knife saves the day.
I got the pictures loaded up. Icicle 3 is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157639948780393/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157639948780393/) , and all the sets are at http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/) . If you would like the 100% photos, let me know at sailsong@swbell.net.
I am always waiting for the pictures and never disappointed. I have written this before and repeat here again: the GBCA races are particularly special because you can relive them when the fantastic Lacy pictures come in. Thanks for being out there time and again. And a special thanks for the extra pictures of sailing by.
Joan III is pretty to look at ;)!
I agree with Maarten. Lacy pictures are the best. Thanks bunches.
Correction to #3 finishes:
Upon review of the Lacy pictures: In the Spin Non-Sprit class, 4th place #5101 is Pingo which is a sprit boat. Fortunately, the submitted list contained 10 finishes with a mix of sprit and non sprit. Phoenix moves up to 4th and Tejas Blue #41940 takes 5th.
Philip Kropf From the TMCA just posted the following about some dredge work this Saturday. Please Read!!!
GBCA Icicle Series racers:
Here is the text of a notice that I have received on dredge work that is scheduled to start this Saturday.
Beginning on Saturday, January 25, 2014 Weeks Marine Inc., Dredge "Capt. Frank" will begin dredging a trench for a pipeline across the Houston Ship Channel just south of North Boater Cut channel. We estimate 8 hrs of dredging activities for the completion of the trench. The actual crossing coordinates on centerline of Houston Ship Channel: Lat 29d 34.712' Lon 094d 55.842'.
Those of you participating in the Icicle Series Race 4 should be aware of this work as the race course may come close to dredge equipment or work vessels that may be mobilized for this project. The location of the trench that they are dredging is indicated by the red line on the chart below (and attached). A dredge pipeline will later be placed into this trench for the purpose of transporting dredge spoils from dredging work that will be occurring at nearby locations in the mid-bay area, passing under the HSC, and then to be deposited in the Mid Bay Placement Area (aka "Mid-Bay Marsh").
For those not yet aware, major dredging work is going to be occurring during most of 2014 in (1) the Bayport Channel and Bayport Flare and (2) in the Houston Ship Channel between Redfish Reef (approximately light 54) all the way north to light 78 at the Bayport Flare. (The most current chart of this area is at: http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/11327.shtml ). Since this is the most active part of Galveston Bay as far as recreational boaters are concerned, it is very important that everyone become keenly aware of exactly where work will be going on at any given time, and especially aware of where dredge pipelines are going to be!
More information on this entire project can be found in a USACE press release that can be accessed on the TMCA website by clicking herehttp://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=178&Itemid=87 (http://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=178&Itemid=87). Additionally, on the morning of February 8th, Lakewood Yacht Club will be hosting a Captain's Roundtable event at which a USACE representative will make a detailed presentation on all this dredging work. You do not have to be a LYC member to attend this event, and information about the event is on the TMCA calendar (click herehttp://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=icalrepeat.detail&evid=1668&Itemid=248&year=2014&month=02&day=08&title=captains-roundtable-at-lyc-mid-bay-dredging&uid=95aad6e2ef9be9c426a3ab8d7abfc117 (http://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=icalrepeat.detail&evid=1668&Itemid=248&year=2014&month=02&day=08&title=captains-roundtable-at-lyc-mid-bay-dredging&uid=95aad6e2ef9be9c426a3ab8d7abfc117)) and in a "press release" document from LYC (click herehttp://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=179&Itemid=87 (http://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=179&Itemid=87)).
If you maybe have kind of forgotten how to tell which is the "safe side" and which is the "danger side" of a dredge that you may be trying to pass, click herehttp://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=117&Itemid=87 (http://www.tmca.nu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=117&Itemid=87) to access the "Sharing Our Bay" document that exists to help keep us all safe as we navigate in and around the commercial shipping channels.
Finally, dredge pipelines are fairly easy to see when they are floating on the surface, but when they are submerged (on the bottom, or in a trench), they are potentially far more dangerous when you encounter them than the dredges themselves! If you are trying to cross a submerged pipeline you need to know how much good water is on top of that pipeline!! In the past it has always been very frustrating trying to call a dredge on the radio and not have them answer. But during the entirety of these dredging projects in 2014, there is now a person stationed aboard each dredge whose sole duty is to maintain a radio watch. The USACE has required this of the dredging contractor in an attempt to keep all of us safe as we navigate around these worksites. A paragraph in the USACE press release tells you how to contact a dredge via VHF.
When I find out about specific dredging activities such as the one noted in this Alert, I will do my best to get the information distributed. But generally just be very careful out on Galveston Bay this year as you navigate close to the areas where dredging might be taking place. A fatality occurred a couple of years ago in the Anahuac Channel when a recreational boater hit a dredge pipeline, and no one wants any kind of reoccurrence of that!!!
Philip Kropf
TMCA Past Commodore (www.tmca.nu)
Recreational Boater Rep to the USCG Area Maritime Security Committee (AMSC)
Recreational Boater Rep to the USCG Port Coordination Team (PCT)
Recreational Boater Rep to the Lone Star Harbor Safety Committee (LSHSC) www.lonestarhsc.org
s/v Silhouette
713-598-6454 (c)
pkropf@flash.net
Thanks for posting this. The links don't work. Could you post the links as well.
Try the links now. A few open up PDF files from TMCA and others go straight to the website. The chart link takes awhile. Philip does a good job of keeping up with what is happening on Galveston Bay.
Will Kevin have a chance to look into his crystal ball and come up with new handicaps for the Club Handicap for Icicle 4??
Ron E
Stellar of Course
El Supremo Pollo is working on it.!
Tell him to be kind, I need all the help I can get.
Ron E
Does anyone know if we will have to cross any dredge pipelines during icicle 4? It's not clear to me from the doc's posted.
They should be putting the spoil on the other side of the channel, so there shouldn't be any pipes on the west side. Just my opinion.
Hey Ron! You're already a plus 39 secs per mile. Even Santa has his limitations.
Sorry for the delay. El Pollo was on the fritz there for a bit.
Results in order of finish time received:
Stellar of Course
Gemini
Skalawag
Second Wind
Escape Hatch
Royal Crescent
Firewater
JK3
Figaro
Lil Bit a Sol
Ananda
High Hope
Amore
Other Woman
Seafarie
Vigilance
Knot on Call
Dream
Free Spirit
Chapa'ai
Ratings:
http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2575&custom_report_id=2 (http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2575&custom_report_id=2)
Three boats participated with RaceQs tracking running on their phones in yesterday's race #4 (http://raceqs.com/tv.htm#user_id=8365&video_offset=&track=a5589aba-4ff6-43c7-b379-db1c569415d9&start=2014-01-25%2012:01:02.630%20-06:00&finish=2014-01-25%2013:46:14.900%20-06:00&boat=J92):
Other Woman
Stinger
J92 (sail #77)
Although we tried to hook the finish, it was an exciting loss by inches to Stinger:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wjEz20OI4Nw/UuUzANDm4HI/AAAAAAAAHkI/g9ffgSRU-hk/s512/2014%20GBCA%20Icicle%204%20Photo%20Finish.png)
I forgot to set mine up. Chalk that up to memory loss. Will do better in the last Icicle.
Nice finish --- J109,J109,J105,J105,J92. Why is that?
Bee, yours was on. Very informative to look at the race tracks and the statistics. It would be nice if others started using the program as well,
And at least according to the race track the J92 got you at the finish.
Bee
good point you bring up
if those classes consistently win a majority of races then maybe phrf "Performance" handicapping should evaluate their local phrf numbers
thanks for bringing this up
It's reported that it was another spectacular day on the bay. :) About 50 boats on the bay....75 at the party.
Not in Chicago where I was this weekend, where it was 0 degrees and blowing 20+ knots a painful negative wind chill, snowing and ice covering the lake. :o
Results of race 4 are:
Spin Sprit
1 Hamburg
2 French Connection
3 Infinity
4 Stinger
5 J-92 George Cushing's boat
Spin Non-Sprit
1 Picante
2 Etchell sail # 1137
3 Silver Bullet
4 Toccata
5 Parrot Tale (lite)
SOS
1 Mental Floss
2 Selah
3 High Cotton
4 Rapide
5 (No Boat seen)
Non-spin
1 Ella Grace
2 Tenacious
3 Wildcat
4 Joan III
5 High Hopes
Cruising Club
1 Skalawag
2 Escape Hatch
3 Firewater
4 Figaro
5 Stellar of Course
Series results through race 4: Click here (http://www.gbca.org/resources/Documents/2014%20Icicle%20Series%20Results.pdf)
Anyone is welcome to challenge a boat's PHRF number. But, they need to present the challenge with facts to the committee and we will review the rating based on facts. But, it is very difficult to base ratings on results of a pursuit style race.
Challenging a rating is always a slippery slope; one is basically saying the team is not as fast as the results portray. Are there some boats that may have a rating that doesn't accurately portray their performance; possibly. Why do certain boats continually win the non-spinnaker class? Why are many of the top finishers J boats? How does one "prove" the speed of a PHRF crew? How you race a boat one-design is much different than racing numbers. Many times a crew that is used to racing PHRF does not do well racing one-design. This becomes an unfair method of comparison, but how do you measure?
I think it would be interesting to have the crews switch boats; have the 105's sail the 109's and vise versa.
Quote from: harris on January 26, 2014, 05:00:07 PM
Bee
good point you bring up
if those classes consistently win a majority of races then maybe phrf "Performance" handicapping should evaluate their local phrf numbers
thanks for bringing this up
Quote from: harris on January 26, 2014, 05:00:07 PM
Bee
good point you bring up
if those classes consistently win a majority of races then maybe phrf "Performance" handicapping should evaluate their local phrf numbers
thanks for bringing this up
Harris:
Maybe you should learn how to sail your boat up to its rating and then worry about
forcing PHRF changes to other boats.
Maybe you should recognize the fact that your 44.7 was never designed to run an A-kite.
Maybe you should recognize that Goethe, Mather, Uzi and George Cushing are
really good sailors and have really good crew. I wish I was in their league but the
only reason Stinger does well is directly related to her crew.
This was one of the first races that Ben Miller and the other C22 did not finish first
against all of us. Are you going to argue for changing the C22 rating. Ben Miller
is a damn good sailor. How does that affect his handicap? I have heard gripping
about this but there are 15,000+ C22's. I just cannot see changing their handicap
just because one doesn't like it.
Every time Kevin Hayes and Mike McGagh run the M24 Mojo race they finish in
the top five. These two guys are excellent sailors. Finishing close to them is
worth the effort all the way. When Pedro and his crew are in tune Pingo is
another boat that's tough to beat.
The big difference between the J's, M24's, and C22's and the rest of the
fleet is that they frequently sail OD against each other. What this means is
that they have to tune the boat for optimum performance, make sure that the
sail complement is the best they can buy, and yes, do those things that reduce
weight and optimize through the water perforrmance. To win OD consistently
one is forced learn the boat really well and tereby become a better sailor.
Vic Forsyth used to say "One starts losing points at the dock." I translate that to
"Boat prep, Boat prep, Boat prep, you can't do enough of that."
OJ Young will win the HMR (pursuit) almost every time he enters. That Whitby 42
may be a handicap beater but are you willing to argue that OJ is not a good sailor?
Are you willing to say that its not his boat prep and skills that make this happen?
If you have trouble with your handicap go race in GBCA's orange class and get
El Pollo Rey to change your Cap each race. Should give you some idea of how
good you actually are.
All this.. And its only Monday?
Back to some "un-rated" comments. Again a day to be grateful we can be out on the water year round. This time we finally had real icicles. Joan III's crew had a great time though we missed the opportunity to luff our sailmaker. Next time Butch! Sailing a long keel, classic yawl ratings are always important and the surprising thing with the pursuit is that we all do finish so close together.
Waiting for the pictures!
Well said Maarten. I am always impressed with how close some of the finishes are but I also see a lot of boats that are still learning, or maybe just having fun. I am also more and more impressed with what some racers negatively refer to as "curisers." I now know that many of them are really great guys and great sailors. Some have more hours on the water then any of us so-called "racers." One or two have sailed around the world with class.
I'll be the first to admit that PHRF stinks, but it is what it is. Technology (sprits, carbon fiber, foils, ...) will continue to make rating boats very difficult. Its the reason IRC, ORC, and the other "new" systems exist. Oh, and BTW, ORC did little to calm the discourse on ratings when Andrea tried it in the HMR's.
Speaking of foiling, up on foils the AC72's were consistently running at something like 2 or maybe on occasion 2.5 times true wind speed. How should we set a PHRF number for them? Would we be willing to allow them to race in the multi-hull class?
How 'bout the Moth's. Would be interesting to give one of those a PHRF rating (any number should do) and let them run one of the pursuit races with us. I would really love to see that. Any speculation on how close the second place boat would be?
Still at the boat. I will be home tonite and put the pictures on Flickr. Too slow at Seabrook. Next weekend looks to be another fine day. May be a little more wind, but hope no rain. Remember to put on your best "Ascot" for the Judge Smails Regatta. Wait until we get Flying Kiss out there. 8)
Commodore AsScotty
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My boat is set up for IRC and long distance and cruising and I knew that she would never be competitive under PHRF from when we bought her
this is just a point following your observation for the community to ponder - similar to your comments to ponder
enough said
Pictures finally loaded. I kinda got carried away at the end with everyone tacking to make the finish. Quite exciting! Icicle 4 photos at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157640241642053/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157640241642053/) and all the sets at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/). These are the 30%. If you would like the 100% picture, let me know,
sailsong@swbell.net.
Great pics for #4. Wow! Thanks Lacy Bros!!
We've been pretty fortunate this year with the weather!
Thanks for the great pictures!
Update from Philip Kropf on the dredging.
Ice#5 = Judge Smails Regatta is that correct!!! Now lets have some fun, and what kind of great food will there be at the club house this time!
Judge Smails it is this weekend! It is also the Standard Course. This weeks cuisine will be provided by "Jackie's Brickhouse". Chicken Tortilla Soup and good times for out last race of the Icicle Series. JB (just down the street on 2094) will have some discount coupons available and have The Nailers playing live Saturday after the GBCA Lounge closes down. Thanks to Dave Liggett for getting this sponsor! Four of the five classes are up for grabs. Put on your best ascot, blue blazer, and yachty cap, and sail your ascot off ;)!
Just a reminder. According to the SI's:
XI. Series Awards
Trophies for the series will be awarded to the top three eligible yachts in each class based on points awarded per race. All yachts must be owned by a GBCA senior member and have a valid PHRF-GB certificate as of the date of the last race in the series to be eligible for series awards. GBCA Club Handicap class participants are not required to have a rating certificate.
Make sure you Senior Membership is current. Help your Club and good luck with winning the ever coveted trophy class flags!
The (somewhat) Honorable Judge Elihu Smails has issued a pro forma incognito de-facto writ of hilarious corpus subsequent to being bitten by a drunken chicken said to be under the (alleged) custody of the GBCA and ordered that new ratings for the GBCA Cruising Class be ex-wasted and available post-hatched after the usual circumlocutions:
http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2575&custom_report_id=2 (http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2575&custom_report_id=2)
Last Week's Reporting Finishers:
Skalawag
Escape Hatch
Firewater
Figaro
Stellar of Course
Knot on Call
Royal Crescent
Other Woman
Ananda
Second Wind
Well I am back to the middle of the fleet with no change in handicap. Seems like I have been here before. :)
Ron E
Maybe not Ron. I was on the submitted sheet but we're not showing up on the list. We were after Knot On Call and before Royal Crescent. I just sent Kevin an E-Mail. 14:07:06.
Ed,
You weren't on the list from the "Bench". I will release the chicken for a re-drop after morning feed. We get better "results" that way.
"Knot on Call" will be the sole median boat with Ron above and you below. Depending on how it "shakes out" some boats may change.
Should be done by 0900-1000 and I'll e-mail everyone then. Anyone else that wants to crow about their finish, squawk now!
I think the chicken has laid some bad eggs(Chicken may have the flu), I almost looks like we start same time the party starts. O well, I happy for the Club Class leader?s they all have sailed well and all have good captains, but I have to put my money on Stellar of Course, Go ?Captain Ron?.
Kevin don?t know if it is possible, but can you post the finish times of the Club Class, I know you already you have a lot on your plate, but just asking. Just want to say thanks Kevin and all the rest of the committee for all their time and hard work on another great 2014 Icicle series.
Terry Young(FireWater crew)
Terry,
Firewater's rating dropped 5 after Icicle #4. That's pretty typical for a boat that placed 3/11. What am I missing?
PS Eggs have nothing to do with the results of a "chicken drop" game ;)
The median finish only changed by 9.5 seconds. That?s wasn?t enough to change anything.
Breathe easy Ron!
Nice try Ed!
Fair winds,
El Pollo
Don't piss off the chicken.. He may turn in to a vulture! BEWARE!
Another pleasant day for 50+ boats who come out to sail and complete the 2014 Icicle series, followed by great camaraderie at the apr?s race party on the deck. Chicken tortilla soup, provided by Jackie's Brickhouse warmed the crowd. Thanks Dave Liggett for coordinating the meal.
Winner of the Judge Smails Regatta goes to Escape Hatch!
Results of race 5 are:
SOS
1. Shearwater
2. High Cotton
3. Selah
4. Mental Floss
5. Rapide
Cruising Club
1. Royal Crescent
2. Second Wind
3. Knot on Call
4. Skalawag
5. Ananda
Non-Spin
1. Ella Grace
2. Wildcat
3. Tenacious
4. Be Easy
5. Joan III
Spin Non-Sprit
1. Baltic Raider
2. Alert
3. Petite Helen
4. Picante
5. Revolution
Spin Sprit
1. Duck n Dive - Viper #103
2. GB
3. Infinity
4. J70 #241
5. Stinger
Series results through race 5: Click here (http://www.gbca.org/resources/Documents/2014%20Icicle%20Series%20Results.pdf)
Race 5 pts aren't posted..
What an end to a wonderful series! Thanks to all who participated and to all the sponsors that provided food for three of the races, King's Biergarden and Restaurant, Jackie's BrickHouse, and one anonymous donor. Thanks to the rest of the Board and numerous other volunteers for helping put on these races. The photos to the Judge Smails Regatta are posted at http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157640474326915/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/72157640474326915/) , and all the sets at http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacyphotos/sets/) . If anyone would like the 100% pictures, send me an email with the photo number and race at sailsong@swbell.net.
Don't forget the Commodore's Ball February 15th. It should be a fun time, and, for all the Icicle Series winners , your Trophy Flag. The Yachtsman of the Year, Crewperson of the Year, and Volunteer of the Year will be awarded. Come celebrate their accomplishments and dance the night away. I hope to see you there.
Our next regatta is the St' Patrick's Day Regatta on March 15th. The NOR will be out in a timely fashion. Keep it on your calendar.
Commodore Scotty
As usual the photos are great. Especially that of the Great and Powerful Ballast One.
Thanks again to all the volunteers and to all three of the Lacys for such great shots.
Best start of the year. This time is really good for sailing and it is a pleasure to see how many join for a good old race around the cans. Great to be part of this especially this year with real icicles. Thanks for organizing and a special thanks for the great pictures. I now know that I can postpone spending money on the divers!
Quote from: Maarten on February 03, 2014, 08:09:19 PM
Best start of the year. This time is really good for sailing and it is a pleasure to see how many join for a good old race around the cans. Great to be part of this especially this year with real icicles. Thanks for organizing and a special thanks for the great pictures. I now know that I can postpone spending money on the divers!
I was going to same the same thing about the bottoms of both our old boats.
Thanks for the photos guys.
I like picture 1757 of Joan's zinc on her keel. The picture I did not get was when I saw the keel at least another 18 inches down. It was a nice day on the water. Sorry we could not stay for the finish, but had to get back and set up the party....and, the champagne was getting to critical pressures with all the rockin and rollin!
All I can say ?Escape Hatch? you?re looking good, what team spirit. Judge Smails and gophers. Deffand Judge winners!
Just got an e mail directed to all the cruisers requesting any other finish times. I resent it again today 13:25:50. per my two previous e mails 2/2 and 2/3. The chicken must be losing track of its "droppings".
Don't take it personal Ed. I left another one off that list as well. I plan to migrate the Chicken to "The Cloud" eventually so don't look up.
We have top men working on it. Top men.
Not personal buddy!! I like da CHICKEN!