GBCA Discussion Forum

Thank you there is room on the bay for everyone. ORC and PHRF Please get all the boats out there and talk up the racing.

I love one design because the boats are identical, measured, and weighed.  Any weight added is fiber glassed into the hull.  Crew is weighed and limited.  This is pure racing.  After that i would group boats for displacement racing less than 10 knots hull speed. Then the boats that boat speed exceed hull speed downwind 10 to 20 knots@ about 120 degrees. Then we can add 20+ if needed.

Normally the one designs get their own class and we keep out of their way. This dropping classes and grouping boats together has me concerned.

Thanks for chipping in
I am ok with one handicap system as long as there is a displacement class. Boats limited to hull speed and those that can double that number.  I am an engineer and fluid mechanics was my favorite class. There is not enough math to cover the difference.  In the early 90's Doug Logan put a prototype in the water and on the first rum it did 12 to 15 knots. We are in 2024 and the technology is in several designs.  They did it with a flat bottom, light weight, and big sail area.
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The boat I race on will never see those speeds.  It was built before the 90's.  Today we have foiling boats should we compete with them?  What's their handicap?

Looks like Miss April is flying the Dragons!!!

Thank you we need help on this one.

And for the record i started Wednesday nights on a J 22 and ended up on a J 24 "On the Edge" with Steve Press.  Had a blast we got first place for the series.  So i do really do have friends that have J boats....

Hey go look at Bay cup 1.  The last time we were all out there. There were more PHRF boats than ORC boats.  Those are real numbers from a recent race.  If you drop over half the fleet i could see how it would be hard to race. I have nothing bad to say about ORC. I just think excluding boats is bad for racing.

Race was canceled not enough boats....we actually have a performance cup trophy from 2016.

Let hear some noise so we can get back to racing.

Nicole and Bob
PHRF has been a good class for a long time and i do not want to see it go away.  We need more boats out there not less. To try to get everyone lumped into ORC does not cut it for me. Boats not racing should get some attention. I am hearing about the extra money that people do not want to spend. I see this as a step backward and do not want to race against lighter faster boats.