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I really like the new courses (SDR, Moonlight Serenade, and New Moon Swing).  As I sat here editing my routes I got to thinking.  Yeah I know  that is quite dangerous.  I am not recommending this for 2020 but why not combine the SDR, the moonlight SDR, the new moon SDR, and maybe one more into a series.  Each of these courses have different advantages for different boat designs.  Screaming reachers can do well when the number of reaches is large.  Boats that don't reach well can do well on days when the reaches are small.  I think this would be very interesting.  Would not have to change any of the course dates to fold them into the Rum (or Icicle) series.

Really great work guys.  Thanks.

Bee

For most boats, you are correct Scott. This is particularly true for boats that cannot be easily rotated to leeward when going downwind.  There are two instances in which you are not.  One is where one can get the boat rotated over to leeward when going downwind.  This id not easy when the boat is heavy. The other is when your kite is designed to do go much deeper then possible.  Gerhard's Saga is an example of a heavy boat that can actually go very deep with an a-Kite.

An a-Kite can be designed to make it possible and efficient to sail at 175 degrees TWA.  I had two (C&C Sailmakers)  and I proved that against a J35 and a J109 several times.  What is happening, as explained by Bruce Martin, is that the boat is efficient enough for the apparent wind to be at the proper angle for this. Essentially the apparent wind  is such that for all intents you are sailing at what appears to be 165 TWA. With such a sail, a 105 is efficient enough to do it.  At 12+ knots of wind, there were times in flat waves we could actually go absolutely dead down.  Quite sure you won't believe that and unfortunately I no longer have that kind of kite.  Later in the year it is likely I will have one.

In light air if you can get the boat dipping to leeward the kite rotates around to leeward and again you can go much deeper then one would expect.

You are correct relative to the early days of a-Kite design.  At that point the sailing angles were around 160 or 165.  Today that is no longer so true.

I agree.

Quote from: BrianL on February 07, 2020, 10:29:22 AM
How about the low point scoring system? with any boats that enter at least one race are ranked. all boats that DNF/DSQ/DNC receive last place points. So 1st gets one. Tenth gets 10. if there are 15 boats total in the class at the end, all the DNF/DSQ/DNC boats get 15 for those races.


Brian

Thanks Gary, but this seems quite unfair to me.  If you are going to give everyone a point just for showing up I don't really see this as a series.  I finished with three 1's (not in the top 5) and a 3 to put me in 6th overall.  should have just been 3 points.

As I understand the current Icicle rating system, first place gets 5 points, 2nd gets 4 points, 3rd gets 3 points, 4th gets 2 points, 5th gets 1 point, and any other finisher who puts in his time gets 1 point.  Does that mean that the 5th place boat with 5 points in 5 races could be beaten by a boat who finished 8, 9, 10, 11, and 4th?  In other words could someone explain the actual rating system?

Might want to consider two level security in order to post.

Thanks.

Big time thanks for cleaning it all up.

Someone needs to clean up all the robot posts.  This is rediculus.

One more thing.  Why do I need a PHRF certificate if I am sailing OD?

I tried your link in your original message lbut always got an error message.

This https://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eID=9577 Worked.

Had no trouble after that.

Quote from: Hamburger No 1 on August 28, 2019, 09:25:58 PM
TD,

the sign-up is actually more involved only during the very first time you register. After that, I have found it to actually be easier and faster. We appreciate your patience, though!!

Thanks!!

I am quite confident you will win.

Quote from: Tye Dyed Gary on August 23, 2019, 12:23:00 PM
OK Bee it's you and I match racing so far.

You are not getting out of sailing are you?

Will do.

I know dats true.

Quote from: gwittich on August 22, 2019, 11:39:38 PM
Bee, you are just paying the "over early" sign up penalty!
It's in the bylaws, I think (or not).