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Title: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on July 29, 2009, 10:58:17 AM
NOR is up and registration is available at http://regattanetwork.com/clubs/gbca.html
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Charles on July 29, 2009, 12:35:14 PM
I'm signed up!  Hot or Not! :-\
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: JayZ on July 29, 2009, 10:44:40 PM
I did a quick look at the NOR but would like clarification from the RC if possible. 

I'd like to do the mixed doubles and take along my two rig monkeys ages 6 and 8.  They will most likely make the boat go slower not faster so certainly not an advantage.

Can I get a ruling?  Either way I'll try to show up.

Thanks,

Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jonsey on July 29, 2009, 11:20:53 PM
I have a quick question - is this being run as two different events (single handed on Sat and double on Sunday?)
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: KevinBednar on July 30, 2009, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: Jonsey on July 29, 2009, 11:20:53 PM
I have a quick question - is this being run as two different events (single handed on Sat and double on Sunday?)

Yup, two separate races with one awards ceremony after the race on Sunday.

Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: beverly on July 30, 2009, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: JZ on July 29, 2009, 10:44:40 PM
I'd like to do the mixed doubles and take along my two rig monkeys ages 6 and 8.  They will most likely make the boat go slower not faster so certainly not an advantage.

JZ, I'm sure Walter would have the same sentiment about ME, which is why I beat him to the punch and signed up as the Skipper.  I don't have a problem with you bringing your precious offspring along.  They're old enough to learn how to talk like a sailor! 

And for the life of me, I don't know why they call this the Divorce Cup - Walter always says Honey/Dear/Baby/Darling before he yells "What the ____ are you doing?!!!"
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on July 30, 2009, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: JZ on July 29, 2009, 10:44:40 PM
I did a quick look at the NOR but would like clarification from the RC if possible. 

I'd like to do the mixed doubles and take along my two rig monkeys ages 6 and 8.  They will most likely make the boat go slower not faster so certainly not an advantage.

Can I get a ruling?  Either way I'll try to show up.

Thanks,



Jay,
The NOR for the Mixed limits the total crew to one male and one female and I'm not going to make any exceptions. If you want to bring more of the family along, the Rum Races are ideal for that, but the Mixed Doubles is not. I hope to see you out on the water.

Jim Powers
Fleet Captain/PRO
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: JayZ on July 30, 2009, 04:00:44 PM
Does that count if they are hidden down below and noone sees them? 

-alright I got it and respect it no exceptions.  Hope to make it out anyway - we'll see.


Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 01, 2009, 10:45:37 PM
Jay,  I understand the issue... I have no problem if they were on board... but, I think there should be a provision for kids under "x" age... We should encourage kids to be on the water... if they don't count as crew for PHRF, then???
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: ChrisK on August 01, 2009, 11:18:12 PM
Unlike a rum race, or casual sail on the bay, I think the single handed skipper trying to race up to three races, windward-leeward with 1-1.5 mile legs has more than enough to worry about, without the kids.  Looking back at some (ok, many) of the stupid human tricks I've done in this particular race and the resultant failures trying to jibe the spin pole racing single-spinnaker (well documented with pictures from the ever present-blood monger spectator fleet), it doesn't seem like a good idea to have the kiddos around when things go really wrong, as they most certainly will.
Besides, it's best to scare the crap out of just one person at a time onboard. My two cents.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 02, 2009, 11:41:12 PM
Shouldn't that be the decision of the parent/skipper?  Sounds like government telling us what is best for us... I am sure Jay, or someone else that sails with their kids, are already sailing single handed with kids on the boat... there are many times I have taken people out, they knew nothing, and sailed the boat single handed... If things are being expected to be a disaster, should they be going out? 

cheers...
Scott
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Charles on August 03, 2009, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: STuma on August 02, 2009, 11:41:12 PM
Shouldn't that be the decision of the parent/skipper?  Sounds like government telling us what is best for us... I am sure Jay, or someone else that sails with their kids, are already sailing single handed with kids on the boat... there are many times I have taken people out, they knew nothing, and sailed the boat single handed... If things are being expected to be a disaster, should they be going out? 

cheers...
Scott

Unlike some governmental situations, the GBCA is not forcing or coercing you to participate in the event. Maybe we can come up with a "single handed with moving ballast" race. Then think of the possibilities for the mixed double race! ;D
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 03, 2009, 11:52:35 AM
Very true....

which brings another topic: why do we chose to sail but, make it someone elses responsibility to telll us not to?  I am thinking of when the weather gets bad... 
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Eric713 on August 03, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
Hi Guys.  I understand there is a trophy presentation on Sunday after the mixed race.  Is there a party Sat. nite after the race?
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Charles on August 03, 2009, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: Eric713 on August 03, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
Hi Guys.  I understand there is a trophy presentation on Sunday after the mixed race.  Is there a party Sat. nite after the race?

I hope so!!!
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: BJSailor on August 03, 2009, 08:13:37 PM
Two 60lb children on the weather rail equals one girlfriend / wife or 1/2 boyfriend / husband in the doublehand race. 

The NOR and SIs are pretty clear.  Singlehanded / doublehanded - seems pretty clear.

Take the children for a nice sail after the race or this/next weekend.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on August 03, 2009, 08:51:27 PM
Quote from: Eric713 on August 03, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
Hi Guys.  I understand there is a trophy presentation on Sunday after the mixed race.  Is there a party Sat. nite after the race?

There is ALWAYS a party after a GBCA race. As of now, Beverly, Charles, Chris, Duane, Richard and Terri and their crew will join  the RC on Tramp  after the races and have a great time.There will be booze and food and party favors. Private Party.
If more people sign up, we may have to move the party to the clubhouse and open it up. There will be more booze. And popcorn. Maybe some food. Definitely more booze.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Evan on August 06, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
Terri has been nice enough to allow me to skipper Cluster on saturday...any other 80s want to come play?
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: simsup on August 06, 2009, 10:13:17 AM
The owners of "Club Tropicale" plan on being out there some fun. Probably both days.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: beverly on August 06, 2009, 10:46:12 AM
Shaken not Stirred will be out on Saturday as well, practicing our yelling and screaming in preparation for the Divorce Cup on Sunday. 

Don't be afraid of spilling your drinks - come on with your registrations fellow cruisers!  Let's put the C back in gbCa!!!

Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jonsey on August 06, 2009, 10:49:33 AM
Is anyone going to register for the spin fleet?  We're going to come down for both days, at least that's our current plan
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 06, 2009, 03:59:22 PM
I am staying non-spin... the spinnaker will get in the way of the umbrella..

does anyone know of spectator boats going out on Saturday?
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on August 06, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: STuma on August 06, 2009, 03:59:22 PM
I am staying non-spin... the spinnaker will get in the way of the umbrella..

does anyone know of spectator boats going out on Saturday?

M/V Tramp will be out both days with the best seats on the Bay for watching starts and finishes. Price of admission is to help with flags, scoring, checking boats in, etc. Respond to me if you are interested.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: RumSponge on August 06, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 06, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
Terri has been nice enough to allow me to skipper Cluster on saturday...any other 80s want to come play?

Not really.  I'm tainted from almost getting heat stroke last year.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 11, 2009, 03:21:54 PM
ok... lost the umbrella, so I changed over to spinnaker... I know Casey has changed also... practiced last night and think have everything secured...

are wind vanes legal?

cheers...
Scott
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jonsey on August 12, 2009, 07:57:40 AM
Quick question - right now i'm the only boat registered for the double-handed PHRF spinnaker fleet.  Will the J80's and J22's stay broken out if they only have a couple of boats or will they be put in the PHRF spin?  I'm worried i'll be the only boat in that fleet..

TKS
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: gwittich on August 12, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
Are autopilots allowed for the Saturday race?
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Box on August 12, 2009, 10:28:32 AM
No.  No SOS-TEX for this one.  Straight-up RRS.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on August 12, 2009, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: Jonsey on August 12, 2009, 07:57:40 AM
Quick question - right now i'm the only boat registered for the double-handed PHRF spinnaker fleet.  Will the J80's and J22's stay broken out if they only have a couple of boats or will they be put in the PHRF spin?  I'm worried i'll be the only boat in that fleet..

TKS

Jeff (and anyone else who has the question),
I will put three or more one designs in a class. Any two or less will race in the spin fleet and there may be divisions within the spin fleet depending on the number of entries and rating bands, and the spin fleet may include one design classes as divisions.
Speaking of ratings, current PHRF-GB certificates are required to race PHRF, and must be uploaded on RN before the Skipper's meeting, or delivered to the the RC at the meeting. Jeff, this is not directed specifically at you. There are several boats lacking certificates. I will send an email to skippers shortly.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jonsey on August 12, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
Jim,

I appreciate the response.  My application is in and i'm being reviewed at Thursday's meeting.  I hope that I have everything in good order and that I receive my certificate Thursday night / Friday morning.

Again, thanks for the response.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on August 12, 2009, 04:38:12 PM
SI are up at http://regattanetwork.com/clubs/gbca.html (http://regattanetwork.com/clubs/gbca.html)
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 12, 2009, 05:33:37 PM
Thank you Jim (and crew)...
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: ChrisK on August 13, 2009, 04:55:44 PM
Every year I do this @#@$ing singlehanded race, have a near heat stroke, scare the poo out of myself and then swear to the sailing gods: NEVER AGAIN, N-E-V-E-R!!!  
Last year I nearly passed out at the dock...and it wasn't from winning the party.
There's a picture Mary took...I'm 15 shades of red and look ill. I'm laying on the dock, which is 200 degress and burning my back, but I don't care. It took 2 days to cool down. I remember, oh yes, I remember.

Anyway, fast forward a year...
I tried to ignore this regatta. Really.
Then yesterday I said "Why not mixed doubles? That's always fun!"...and so I signed up.  

Today I sit in a cube farm in the comfort of A/C, listening to some yacht rock, when the gears start turning, fueled by too much coffee this morning.
Well, let's just check the web...a couple more boats have signed up. Jones is coming from Austin. Cool.

I don't want to miss the fun.  You only live once.
Oh, why not? I'll register for the singlehanded again....

Then the moment of truth...the evil check box on regatta networks comes up...
Spinnaker or non-spinnaker...

I hesitate, I trimble, my organs wince, enter the 1,000 yard stare, and the voice in my head:  
"Really now" says the brain..."let's be reasonable...you almost cooked your noodle last year.  Don't click spin...just don't do it.  You won't go faster, you'll probably lose, and you'll just sweat alot more."  

Then the other side of brain fires up:
"Ah man, how bad can it be... I mean, it was bad last year, but this boat is more stable and set up for it".  

The other side of brain responds, in a slightly deadpan tone:
"True. It's set to fly if you run that halyard back, get better bungee...but it's still 27 feet of boat, fool. Oh, and don't forget people will be watching when you screw up the set, but they won't notice if you're far enough back in the fleet...just swallow your pride, don't hit the committee boat, drink a little more water and a maybe less beer..."

Then the other side of brain chimes in in a most sarcastic tone:
"Yeah smart guy, more water, that's what you said to yourself and half the Classic Cafe last night, that's why I feel a little like scuz today, you dolt...you never listen to me..."

Other side of brain, responding sharply: "Fine, stop being rational. Just for that, I'll fix your wagon."

Then uncontrolable impulse, mouse moves....

Spinnaker. Confirm. *click*

I'm getting butterflys. I suddenly feel thirsty, smell sunscreen and spilled beer. Did I just break into a sweat....?
How is that possible? It's 57 degress in this stupid building...

*Snap-to!*
What? What happened?? What's going on here??

Damn-it! I've done it again.
Racing singlehanded spinnaker?!  
Why? Why? Why?

:P
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: JayZ on August 13, 2009, 05:47:42 PM
LMFAO.  Chris that is your best post ever.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Sailaway on August 13, 2009, 07:56:24 PM
That was good!
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: sailorjohnny on August 13, 2009, 08:36:59 PM
Chris, that was great! I wonder how many have thought the same thing. I did it on my boat last year Nd decided to spectate this year because of it. Good luck to all you brave souls and I'll be watching from under the bimini.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jonsey on August 13, 2009, 08:50:45 PM
 
Ya dude..  i've been watching sailflow..  for about 12 hours caught +15 on Sat.   Not sure if they did that to test me or what, but we're back to something reasonable.

Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Box on August 13, 2009, 09:22:16 PM
Boy, when those right and left hemispheres start a feud, you?re in for it.  We?ll have some power food and pain medication set up at the GBCA lounge/triage facility after Saturday?s race so the single-handers can stoke up for Sunday.

Good luck to all!
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Bednar on August 13, 2009, 09:25:00 PM
Ok, so I just signed Stinky up for the Single Hand and the Mixed Doubles.  It wants to bill me $40/race because I'm late.  That's fine, but shouldn't that be $35 since I signed up for both?  How do I fix that?
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Jim Powers on August 13, 2009, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: board on August 13, 2009, 09:25:00 PM
Ok, so I just signed Stinky up for the Single Hand and the Mixed Doubles.  It wants to bill me $40/race because I'm late.  That's fine, but shouldn't that be $35 since I signed up for both?  How do I fix that?
the fee for each regatta is $35, but if you do both you get a $5 discount for each, for a total of $60 for both days. But the late fee is $5, so you total should be $65. Bring a check for $25 to the meeting and we will be square.
while we Are on the subject, everyone who entered both regattas before the late fee kicked in should have paid a total of $60. all of you paid $70 because of the way RN is set up. i know who you are, and each of you will get a $10 refund to your credit card.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: ChrisK on August 13, 2009, 10:35:46 PM
I forgive you. Make mine a donation.
I'll just spend it on booze and women anyway
;D



Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Sailchick on August 13, 2009, 10:46:52 PM
Thank God Kevin picked Non-Spin this year.  I'm with Beverly, we're putting the "C" back in GBCA.

Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: jayhefty on August 14, 2009, 08:10:16 AM
Chris- very Hemingwayesque writing, now all you need is a mojito and a six toed cat. ;D
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: ChrisA on August 14, 2009, 08:55:57 AM
I hope there's plenty of pain medication this evening. We need courage ahead of time.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Charles on August 14, 2009, 11:32:20 AM
Quote from: ChrisA on August 14, 2009, 08:55:57 AM
I hope there's plenty of pain medication this evening. We need courage ahead of time.

Kinda like pre-hydrating!
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: gwittich on August 14, 2009, 02:54:07 PM
Jim, I could not find a description of the class flags for Saturday's race.
I am most interested in the flag for PHRF Non-Spin B.

Thanks,
Gerhard
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: George E Cushing on August 14, 2009, 03:05:56 PM
Are the sailing instructions for the mixed doubles posted yet? I followed the link above to the Regatta Network NOR etc..but do not know where to look specifically. Help please.

George
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Box on August 14, 2009, 03:07:47 PM
Revised SI for the single-handed race have been uploaded to regatta network.  These include appendix A with that information.

Mixed Doubles Note: revised SI have been uploaded for your race, but classes are in a state of flux.  We should have it revised soon.  If we don't get any more entries, that is ;)
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Box on August 14, 2009, 03:11:35 PM
George - go to the official notice board for your event and you'll find the link there.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: George E Cushing on August 14, 2009, 03:18:41 PM
This is what I get when I click the link:

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The requested URL /clubmgmt/regatta_uploads/2363/2009 Mixed Doubles SI.pdf was not found on this server.


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Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Box on August 14, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
That's so wierd :o  I saw it too.  I re-did the links and they work now.  Make sure you refresh the page when you go back.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: ChrisK on August 14, 2009, 08:54:41 PM
23 boats single hand, 35 for mixed doubles.
Great turnout!
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: Kevin Box on August 15, 2009, 12:14:38 PM
Some changes made to the scratch sheet for the Mixed Doubles tomorrow:

http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=2363&custom_report_id=2

Skippers have been e-mailed.
Title: Re: GBCA Single Handed/Mixed Doubles Regatta
Post by: STuma on August 18, 2009, 02:34:46 PM
Great job Kevin... You guys have perfected the system pretty well...