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Guess it really is all about the party...

Fool me once...

Received an email, but nothing on the notice board.  About to head down there.

Very surprised at the call. 

Quote from: GordieK on August 30, 2015, 08:27:16 AM
White flag, sprit boat fleet finishes for AUG 29, 2015
1.  AEOLUS,  J-120. Sail #12039
2.  Terrorist, Sail# 7150
3.  Pingo, Sail #5101
4.  Sade Foot,  Sail# 28339
5.  Airborne,  Sail# 238
6.  Gold Rush, Sail# 75
7.  Stinger,  Sail # 296

During this sequence non-spin Catalina 22 sail 5242 was observed finishing.

Sade Foot = Spadefoot, you know, like the toad.

I see 10-12 out of the SSE, if that makes you feel better...

Quote from: Andrea on August 24, 2015, 05:28:24 PM

Quote from: svShearwater on August 07, 2015, 11:30:00 AM
It is perfectly clear where my boat will race, so no real point in me contacting Andrea.  We are a sport boat from bottom to top although not as extreme as the Viper. 

I don't want to discourage you from entering, but I do not think your boat falls into the Sport Boat definition.  Under the rules as they are currently written, if a Melges decides to race, it would race in the Sport Boat Fleet for the Bacardi Superior trophy against the Santa Cruz, and maybe against an Olsen 30 or Hobie 33 if they should decide to race.  I have not checked the numbers so I'm not absolutely certain they qualify either and I've already admitted my memory has its flaws so feel free to correct me if their SA/D is not greater than 23 or their D/L is not less than 125.

New boat this year. I think think the D/L is around 65 and the Sa/D is around 30.

So, it reads like there are 3 classes, light (SportBoat), medium (Spin), and heavy (Heavy).  Which makes sense, sort of.  Going with that, there is no way the SC 50 belongs in the heavy class, and the J/120 and J/105 don't belong in the sport boat class.  Seems like there is a mixing of sport boat and "sprit" boat. 

Bee, according the NOR, they are using the PHRFGB sport boat definition. 

Me confused... 

On the bright side there will be lots of boats to race against and rum on the other side, so I don't worry too much.

Now everyone please be good so Neptune grants us fair winds and following seas.  My "sport boat" goes upwind like a..., well, like a real sport boat.

Scott, you are right.  I just didn't scroll down far enough to see the bright neon sign of an announcement.  I was just clicking on the upcoming events link on the right and the Events link at the top.  I feel better.  I'm sure most people are better at scrolling than me and I really want people to register!  Give my wife some competition on Saturday, please.   

Hi Bee

Totally understand that situation, but now we are just splitting hairs amongst us racers.  In addition to the 3 PHRF spin classes, there is also a PHRF non-spin and a number of cruising classes, so it seems HMR has addressed the racers vs. the cruisers.  That still doesn't answer why there is a PHRF Spin class in addition to PHRF Heavy and Sport Boat.  Walter, you registered for PHRF Spin.  Why that class and not PHRF Heavy?

I ran the numbers for the J/105 using what we all know is bogus displacement of 7750 and even then the 105 doesn't meet the sport boat criteria.  Disp/L is 135 vs. 125 cut-off.  A J/105 I raced against in California was officially measured last year, full empty it weighed just over 9000 pounds.  In addition, the SC 50 easily meets the sport boat criteria.  Not to mention that calling any Santa Cruz "heavy" is an insult to Bill Lee and his ULDB philosophy.  The SC 50 is one of the original ULDB's (ultralight displacement boat in case I surprised anyone). 

It is perfectly clear where my boat will race, so no real point in me contacting Andrea.  We are a sport boat from bottom to top although not as extreme as the Viper. 

By the way, we are heading down tomorrow morning from Austin with the new boat.  Plan to be on the line for our first Rum Race this year tomorrow evening.  Can't wait.  Is it Friday evening yet?  I'm ready to go play. 

It seems hard to register for this event unless you start at this thread.  Is that normal?  When I click on the link on the gbca homepage it just takes me to a screen with no real information.  Same for the link in Upcoming Events. 

I'm slow and I don't understand.  I realize this isn't a GBCA race, but this still seems like the best place to ask the question.

There seems to be PHRF-Heavy, PHRF-sport  boat, and PHRF-Spin.  Isn't a PHRF-Spin boat either Heavy or sport boat?  Why 3 classes? 

Also, how does a Santa Cruz 50 fit into the heavy class and the J/105 into the sport boat class.  Running the numbers roughly for both and using the PHRF GB sport boat rules, it looks the SC 50 should be in sport boat and the J/105 in heavy.  What am I missing? 

No, I'm referring to races on August 15-16.  That's not that far away.

Any more information on this weekend?  What time is the start on Saturday?  NOR?  Registration? 

Color me interested.

Thanks Gary.  That is what we are used to here on Lake Travis.

Wondering if it is also suitable for putting up a mast on a keel stepped trailer sailor?  We are bringing our boat down from Austin the first weekend in August and the idea is to drysail the boat out of Seabrook using their hoist, but I haven't actually confirmed that is a good idea.  Starting that process now. 

Am I correct that Harvest Moon doesn't require a liferaft?

Either way, we are looking to rent, borrow, but not steal a 4 man valise liferaft for Harvest Moon and the week after.  It's really needed for the week after HM as we need it for a qualifier sail that must be 400 miles and 100 miles offshore, so it will be incorporated into the HM return to Seabrook.

Any suggestions?